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LordKOTL said on 2 hours ago:

Please do 😊.  The last two years it's been busted.

It gives you somethin' to bang on you key board about. Have you blotted out what preceded the last two down years?

 

GO HAWKS!!!!!  

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blkhwks918 said on 11 minutes ago:

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yea i was thinking the same thing ....If players concentrate on getting him the puck , he is at 8 to 10 shot attempts a game ...Remember how Oshie got good at least once a game he would steal the puck beat a defender or two and get a great shot on goal ...many which counted.... tonight on that one play The Lynx picked up the puck a little deep so by the time he hit the blue line the defenders were beat the goalie caught on   still a great chance ....anytime the kid touches the puck i expect him to score 

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Big-T said on On 12/1/2017 at 6:57 AM:

The question is this, does Stan even want to contend this year? Or is he merely going with kids and it is what it is???

It will depend on how the team is doing closer to the deadline, would be the obvious answer. You could argue that he didn't want to contend last year, the way he stood pat at the deadline last year (he said it was because he liked the team as is and they were playing well at that point, but who knows). Would he do that 2 years in a row?

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Big-T said on On 12/2/2017 at 1:13 PM:

I think this is where Stan is in over his head. He just doesn’t understand the logic of the sport. He throws in his draft picks at all costs, I’m all for that if it’s working out. We have seen what his picks can do, and he’s had 2 stick over a decade when we could’ve used a ton of them. Now all the sudden we’re supposed to believe that he has 4-5 of them ready to rock? We have a core that needs to win now, I’m not saying to go out and get a bunch of 32 year olds just cuz, we need accent players to help out, and role players, when the window was larger, that was the time to put in kids and a mini rebuild that wouldn’t cost a ton against the cap. But now the windows closing and filling the lineup with kids that may not even make it here is lunacy and wasting the careers of our star players. If Stan isn’t in a win now mode, he should be jettisoned. Now with CC out, the team will show it’s true colours!!!

Tried that route. Q just put more additions on his dog house and kept adding until Stan went and got him vets.......That somehow always wound up playing for him in the past.

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hsbob said on On 12/2/2017 at 9:03 PM:

It gives you somethin' to bang on you key board about. Have you blotted out what preceded the last two down years?

 

GO HAWKS!!!!!  

Of course not.  But many here have been blithering these past two down years about how, "the boys will flip the switch when it's important."

Did you blot out whether or not they did?

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Granada said on 4 hours ago:

It will depend on how the team is doing closer to the deadline, would be the obvious answer. You could argue that he didn't want to contend last year, the way he stood pat at the deadline last year (he said it was because he liked the team as is and they were playing well at that point, but who knows). Would he do that 2 years in a row?

Would he?  Probably, only if the behind closed door plan is to develop our younger players while the core is around and helping with that process...and, therefore, his job is not in jeopardy.  

Should he?  Not if his job is on the line.  This team as assembled can't win the cup...maybe not even make the playoffs.

Going to be VERY interesting!

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Creature1958 said on 5 hours ago:

Tried that route. Q just put more additions on his dog house and kept adding until Stan went and got him vets.......That somehow always wound up playing for him in the past.

If that’s the case, kinda gotta side with Q. He’s the 2nd best coach of all time, has 4 Cups to his coaching career. Maybe it’s better to let Q run the show till he’s had enough? If Stan isn’t gonna fire him and get someone he’s the boss of, it’s really pointless to keep both together, one has to go, and from a pr perspective, it’s easier to dump the one no one really sees. Q needs someone he can work with!!!

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iknowpuck said on 2 hours ago:

Would he?  Probably, only if the behind closed door plan is to develop our younger players while the core is around and helping with that process...and, therefore, his job is not in jeopardy.  

Should he?  Not if his job is on the line.  This team as assembled can't win the cup...maybe not even make the playoffs.

Going to be VERY interesting!

If this team misses the playoffs, I think the whole management team and possibly coaches should go. But I still feel Q should be given the opportunity to work with someone that he can!!!

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LordKOTL said on 6 hours ago:

Of course not.  But many here have been blithering these past two down years about how, "the boys will flip the switch when it's important."

Did you blot out whether or not they did?

I saw em do it three times when many we're blitherin' they couldn't so I thought they had a shot to do it again the last two,if I'd only learn to predict a poor outcome every year.  

 

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hsbob said on 13 hours ago:

I saw em do it three times when many we're blitherin' they couldn't so I thought they had a shot to do it again the last two,if I'd only learn to predict a poor outcome every year.  

 

GO HAWKS!!!!!   

 

To be fair...who among us really thought they'd have as-poor of a showing against Nashville as what actually happened?  Against St. Louis it was, "The team is gassed from so much hockey."  So, with a short offseason they should have been well-rested.  Plus, the attitude was, "they're in the playoffs so might as well save the team up for it."  and Wha-BAMM!  We get smacked down hard.  Hell, I though it would have been the 'hawks in 6 and that the 'hawks would reignite the fire, too.  Instead they iced the Indy Fuel.

No one is denying that the run we had (if it's over), was something beyond awesome...except maybe for that eunuch who mentioned that winning the cup would be bad for the draft in 2010. 

My comment was saying more that I don't think there is a next gear anymore for the skater core.  WYSIWYG.  Even though I think there should be another gear for guys like Toews and Kane who aren't that old yet (Seabs and Keith might be too old), if that's the reality, that's the reality.  It doesn't negate the past at all.

So that being said if whatsoever remote shot we have at a cup hinges on Kiprusoff'ing Crawford...and with Crawford out If Forsberg cannot be good enough with the core as-is...why go all-in? 

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Puckjim said on 1 minute ago:

Did Toews kill DeBrincat?

Did Toews AND Saad do that?

Or, is he not ready to compete against top pairing d-men?

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iknowpuck said on 58 minutes ago:

Did Toews AND Saad do that?

Or, is he not ready to compete against top pairing d-men?

Are Toews and Saad?

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iknowpuck said on 5 hours ago:

No...neither seem to be on any consistent basis.

It’s not hard to figure out. Toews is only taking what the opposition gives him. He’s playing to not get hurt, I don’t buy that he’s all the sudden become half the leader he was or that he doesn’t care.  Now he goes into the corner and if he gets the puck, great, but if the opposition fights for it, he lets them take it. He clearly has no interest in playing a physical game. I guess with him, we have to let him come around on his own terms. He’s got a lot of miles on him, and he knows it. I think he’ll be back to form, it took Crosby 2.5 years to get his game back on track, I believe Toews will get his head out of the clouds and emerge as what we once knew!!!

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Big-T said on 7 minutes ago:

It’s not hard to figure out. Toews is only taking what the opposition gives him. He’s playing to not get hurt, I don’t buy that he’s all the sudden become half the leader he was or that he doesn’t care.  Now he goes into the corner and if he gets the puck, great, but if the opposition fights for it, he lets them take it. He clearly has no interest in playing a physical game. I guess with him, we have to let him come around on his own terms. He’s got a lot of miles on him, and he knows it. I think he’ll be back to form, it took Crosby 2.5 years to get his game back on track, I believe Toews will get his head out of the clouds and emerge as what we once knew!!!

Did you notice on like Toew's first or maybe second shift of the game, he took a hit along the boards (opposite the player benches) in the neutral zone; and when he came back to the bench, he was hunched over, holding his wrist? Now, I'm certainly not making excuses for the guy and his sub-par play dating back a couple seasons now, but just adding to your point that, yes, he obviously is picking and choosing his times that he goes all-out; and his all-out isn't as strong as it once was. I still have faith in Toews unlike some others, but it's a fact that he isn't the same player he once was; age and playing-style (particularly his, grinding type of style) will do that to any player.

Anyways, that whole line got destroyed last game. Toews is older, and Debrincat is Debrincat, but where the hell is Saad? What's his excuse? Again, not pinning it all on him, but he's not the player we all were expecting before the season started.

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Big-T said on On ‎12‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 6:43 PM:

If that’s the case, kinda gotta side with Q. He’s the 2nd best coach of all time, has 4 Cups to his coaching career. Maybe it’s better to let Q run the show till he’s had enough? If Stan isn’t gonna fire him and get someone he’s the boss of, it’s really pointless to keep both together, one has to go, and from a pr perspective, it’s easier to dump the one no one really sees. Q needs someone he can work with!!!

He is the second best coach of all time because of the Hawks and players he has had. But I know you will defend him and bash Stan because it was Dales team that gave Q all those wins and Stan just can't get Q the players to continue. Q had many player at his avail yet sat so many who were good just to prove a point. As much as I dislike Puck Jim's posts ( Jim no disrespect I love ya man )  and his everybody is garbage crap he proves a point that I will never argue. Q makes boneheaded calls just as you say Stan does. Stan had so many players waiting in the wings only to be snubbed by Q and sat for his Vet's and "fresh legs". Stupid and boneheaded and as many times we have debated about whether these players who Q sat could even make it in the NHL? Come back and tell me how many Stan had to trade away because he didn't want to play them and yet are playing in the NHL today. You can pretty much make a full roster. So stop with the Stan crap Okay Stan has given Q the players Q refused to play players that every team was willing to play and are now. So where does the buck lie? Stan of course. Wouldn't have it any other way.

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Granada said on 2 hours ago:

Did you notice on like Toew's first or maybe second shift of the game, he took a hit along the boards (opposite the player benches) in the neutral zone; and when he came back to the bench, he was hunched over, holding his wrist? Now, I'm certainly not making excuses for the guy and his sub-par play dating back a couple seasons now, but just adding to your point that, yes, he obviously is picking and choosing his times that he goes all-out; and his all-out isn't as strong as it once was. I still have faith in Toews unlike some others, but it's a fact that he isn't the same player he once was; age and playing-style (particularly his, grinding type of style) will do that to any player.

Anyways, that whole line got destroyed last game. Toews is older, and Debrincat is Debrincat, but where the hell is Saad? What's his excuse? Again, not pinning it all on him, but he's not the player we all were expecting before the season started.

You notice Kane missing several open nets? You notice Toews on the PP and PK and also doing his 5 on 5 shifts? Notice Kane sitting on the bench for what matters? Like killing a PK? Or how you should score on a PP where Kane is suppose to shine? Kane is nothing, He is a dancer and should be in the Ice Capades. People cry about all the small forwards we have. Well Kane is the only one who has been given a pass as to not improve. He is as weak as the day he first played. WHY? He could have built muscle tone or weight to help him in the game but he hasn't. Kane is nothing more than an NHL marketing brand and sadly too many people fall for it. Kane sucks and until he is traded to another team and can prove his salt nothing will change. Kane has no grit never has never will he is a dancer who plays without a mouthpiece today in the NHL And lastly Kane made himself playing with Toews not the other way around. So when you want to complain about Toews who is not a dancer and making 10 mil bring up the dancer who sits on the bench collecting 10 mil and watching. Trade Kane put him on another team and we will never hear his name again. 

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Creature1958 said on 1 minute ago:

You notice Kane missing several open nets? You notice Toews on the PP and PK and also doing his 5 on 5 shifts? Notice Kane sitting on the bench for what matters? Like killing a PK? Or how you should score on a PP where Kane is suppose to shine? Kane is nothing, He is a dancer and should be in the Ice Capades. People cry about all the small forwards we have. Well Kane is the only one who has been given a pass as to not improve. He is as weak as the day he first played. WHY? He could have built muscle tone or weight to help him in the game but he hasn't. Kane is nothing more than an NHL marketing brand and sadly too many people fall for it. Kane sucks and until he is traded to another team and can prove his salt nothing will change. Kane has no grit never has never will he is a dancer who plays without a mouthpiece today in the NHL And lastly Kane made himself playing with Toews not the other way around. So when you want to complain about Toews who is not a dancer and making 10 mil bring up the dancer who sits on the bench collecting 10 mil and watching. Trade Kane put him on another team and we will never hear his name again. 

Several? No. One? Yes.

Your Kane hate is getting old. He's leading the team in every offensive stat. I know you want the guy to be Evander Kane, but it's okay he's not when he's putting the numbers he has his entire career. He's a future hall-of-famer and to pretend otherwise is nothing but utterly asinine.

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Granada said on 33 minutes ago:

Several? No. One? Yes.

Your Kane hate is getting old. He's leading the team in every offensive stat. I know you want the guy to be Evander Kane, but it's okay he's not when he's putting the numbers he has his entire career. He's a future hall-of-famer and to pretend otherwise is nothing but utterly asinine.

I don't have your rose colored glasses on. Kane is a brand for the NHL nothing more nothing less. He sells and you buy. Again Toews made Kane,Kane did not make Toews but I see all you posters bashing Toews yet crying to get better players to make Kane what he once was. Kane has no responsibility what so ever for the team It's about his stats. And his stats suck. Put him on another team and watch the decline as the GM tries to accommodate him with players to his liking. Now you and the rest can mock me it will never change me nor my beliefs about many things. I do not go into anything unprepared and I have not only played hockey but have followed it for many decades and this is just an opinion of mine of a player who I may or not want to play with. 

I would have walked off a team with a player like Kane. Does he have skills ? yeah but he is an arrogant egotistical frat boy who believes the team revolves around him and if the team wants to be better they best fill his needs. They have and at a cost not only by money but by players to get him his needs. Still hasn't worked has it ? I sit and watch a 100 ft player who is all about himself and stats and not the team. Dennis Hull was not as gifted as Kane so for the attention Kane got for surpassing him was not impressive to me Kane had a big advantage in that.

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iknowpuck said on 1 hour ago:

^^^Jack D, Creatch?

Don't need Jack to see this nor buy into what the NHL is trying to sell me. Kane sucks and until he is on another team to show off his 100 ft. game we will never know.

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