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Why Pirri? Prior to his injury he wasn't playing well in Rockford. Most nights Pirri was centering Rockfords 3rd line.

If Mills was healthy he'd be playing in Chicago, but I think the next best choice would be Nordstrom to centre on of the bottom 2 lines.

Pirri actually played very well while he was in Chicago, people can nitpick his defense all they want but the guy looked like he fit in and should have been given more of an opportunity than he got.

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Gagner for Oduya and Pirri.

I agrre that it would be Oduya in a deal - Id like to see Tyler Bozak or Jay McClement from the Leafs

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HockeyBuzz is suggesting the Hawks are looking at Evander Kane - could you imagine ? Two Kanes it would be like the Sedins where the commentater would have to refer to them by their first names.

Evander has an attitude , but he does bring some grit along with it so could be a decent move if pulled off

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The Jets ain't gonna trade Kane,the Hawks can't afford Kane and Kane ain't a center.

GO HAWKS!!!!!

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FWIW, Hockeybuzz is rumoring that the Hawks are amongst a few teams kicking the tires on Olli Jokinen. He would be an upgrade over Handzus, offensively at least and maybe a notch quicker (he's younger by a year). Jokinen is on pace for 51 points on the Jets and has had at least 50 points over the past 10 of 11 seasons (counting this year but not last year when he was only on pace for about 30 points prorated over a full season). Obviously, his best years of 70-80 point hockey are way behind him.

I prefer to fill the 2LC from within with either Pirri or Teravainen (with the latter likely to get more consideration), and agree with others who posted earlier that Shaw and Kruger are best suited at 3LC and 4LC, respectively.

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I don't know why people lend any credence to these "rumors" Eklund and the rest of the hockeybuzz bloggers post. It's like any of us started a blog and posted whatever crap we could come up as "legit rumors". If they get something right is just mere chance, since throwing up countless scenarios one will eventually stick.

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would love to get Troy Brower back...or even Ladd!!

Can't see that happening. Ladd is the Jets captain and they are actually on the upswing since the coaching change. However, Ladd was mentioned in a trade rumor a week ago with the Rangers. So anything is possible.

The Caps are definitely down and probalby won't make the playoffs, and might be willing to completely retool and therefore, deal, but I think Brower might come with a high price tag, although he makes a fairly decent, cap friendly $3.6-$3.75 mil over the next three seasons. Would be nice!

Been widely reported the Leafs would be willing to trade Nazem Kadri

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I've never liked him...only played one playoff series his whole career(loss vs Hawks) but Olli Jokinen might be a one 'rental' to play with Kaner...how about Pirri or Morin or a 2nd rounder for him?

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nah, losing OD would leave a hole in the 2nd D pairing. at this point, Leddy cant replace OD.

Leddy just has to start blowing his coverage and turning the puck over more.

Oduya's been a hot mess recently.

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Stan Bowman ain't movin' Nick Leddy for a rental and I think that goes for the top prospects too. I'd move Oduya over Leddy myself but not until the off-season. Another year and another post-season will make Leddy much more suitable for the 2nd pair than he was last time!

GO HAWKS!!!!!

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Gagner for Oduya and Pirri.

I'd do that. I love Pirri but it's clear Q doesn't. If he's not going to get the chance to prove himself as the 2LC of the future then it's time to use him as trade bait.

Oduya has been total garbage this year, especially the last month and he was the worst of the d-corps last season/playoffs...

He coughs the puck up constantly if he's worried about someone delivering a hit, he makes terrible choices in the offensive end and turn the puck over more than anyone in hjs own zone. He also doesn't hit anyone, ever.

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So we've settled on Oduya as this year's whipping boy. Got it.

Last 10 games... -3, 1 point (goal), 7 hits, 17 blocked shots... on the season, he's being credited with well under 1 hit per game and blocking under 2 shots a game... not even coming close to the production value his contract would suggest

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Last 10 games... -3, 1 point (goal), 7 hits, 17 blocked shots... on the season, he's being credited with well under 1 hit per game and blocking under 2 shots a game... not even coming close to the production value his contract would suggest

Really? We're going to start harping on Oduya again? I have no problem with his game, sure he's not played his best during the past 10 games but neither has Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson or Leddy. Why single out Oduya? Oduya's game isn't about point but he does seem to pitch in at clutch moments.

Is Johnny worth his $3.383 million cap hit? Yes, he's worth every penny. Leddy may replace Oduya in the top 4 one day, but that won't happen this year and likely won't happen next year. Oduya is 2nd on the team in blocked shots with 84 (Hammer is 1st with 98) and he's a respectable +10 considering he plays in a shut down role (his partner is only +12). On the season Oduya also has more hits than Hjalmarsson, Leddy and Keith.

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Is Johnny worth his $3.383 million cap hit? Yes, he's worth every penny. Leddy may replace Oduya in the top 4 one day, but that won't happen this year and likely won't happen next year. Oduya is 2nd on the team in blocked shots with 84 (Hammer is 1st with 98) and he's a respectable +10 considering he plays in a shut down role (his partner is only +12). On the season Oduya also has more hits than Hjalmarsson, Leddy and Keith.

I am going to disagree entirely. And blocked shots is an overrated stat. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'd deal him in a heartbeat if it got the team a 2nd line center.

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I am going to disagree entirely. And blocked shots is an overrated stat. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'd deal him in a heartbeat if it got the team a 2nd line center.

Wait. blocked shots is an overrated stat, but you quoted it in your initial argument? What?

"on the season, he's being credited with... blocking under 2 shots a game"

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Wait. blocked shots is an overrated stat, but you quoted it in your initial argument? What?

"on the season, he's being credited with... blocking under 2 shots a game"

I think it's overrated but others don't... I was simply presenting the full numbers... for the price we're paying for him, he's providing less than 1 hit per game and a bit over 1 blocked shot per game... that's pathetic...

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Depth move on the D for some prospect's who don't have a realistic shot at cracking the big teams line up is all you will see(barring serious injuries).

We are still the team to beat.

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While I'm not advocating trading Leddy, I am not convinced he will ever be more than a 3rd pairing PP specialist with this team. The Hawks ask a lot of their top 2 pairs (legwork, stickwork, savvy), and while I've seen d-zone improvement, I've not seen the defensive zone legwork required of our top 4. He doesn't change directions well, and his hockey i.q. seems very average (on the o-side, how many times have you seen him go end to end then have no idea what to do with the puck once he gets there?). He may develop into a fine top 4, but he may not. If the hawks think he may not, his value will never be higher than it is now; certainly it won't be as high if they try him and decide he's not the right guy.

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Oduya drives me up a wall and has done so for a very long time now, but even I'd be hesitant to deal him and/or tinker with the current D. I also think it's safe to say that ever since they've been paired together, Oduya's done wonders for Hjalmarrson's overall game.

Whether he is dollar-for-dollar worth his current contract is insignificant compared to the fact that he's filled the role as a number 4 D man consistently and adequately, which not only has improved Hammer's game, but has given Leddy a longer time period to develop and be correctly slotted on the third tandem.

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I am going to disagree entirely. And blocked shots is an overrated stat. You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. I'd deal him in a heartbeat if it got the team a 2nd line center.

We can agree to disagree.

At this point I wouldn't deal any of the top 5 defensemen. I'd rather go into the playoffs with these 5 (and Rozsival) and find an internal solution to the 2C opening. There are options to centre the 2nd line - Shaw, Handzus, Kruger, Versteeg and TT (if/when ready) but there are no legitimate options to replace Oduya's minutes. With Oduya gone Leddy takes his spot and that's a downgrade on the 2nd pairing. Let's say Kostka takes Leddy's spot, that;s a downgrade too. So by trading Oduya for a 2C (assuming you can) all you've done is solved one issue be creating another one (which is bigger).

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Depth move on the D for some prospect's who don't have a realistic shot at cracking the big teams line up is all you will see(barring serious injuries).

We are still the team to beat.

I might be mis-reading your post here, but why would the Hawks want more depth on D? Brookbank, Rosival, Kostka, Peckham....I agree with your overall premise that, chances are, Bowman will only make a depth move (at the expense of some low-level prospects) at best at the deadline -- but I'd assume it would happen at forward before D.

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