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    Jeremy Colliton

    You never know what these guys are thinking (especially Stan) but if they were thinking interim it would have made more sense to leave Colliton in Rockford and just slide Don Granato into the interim role. I think they believe Colliton is the next coach for this team and they have thrown him into the fire.
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    Stan As Gm

    I guess I just have a hard time believing that the questionable moves by Stan Bowman have all been premeditated in an attempt to get Q fired. Honestly I think people are giving him too much credit for being an evil genius. I think the fact is that he's just not a great GM.
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    Stan As Gm

    Again, I am not trying to antagonize, just trying to better understand your thought process so be patient with me. If I follow your theory, the sequence of events goes something like this: Stan re-signs Q to a 3 year deal in 2016 then slowly but deliberately starts to sabotage the roster so he can fire him 2 years later? Why sign him in the first place? Did Stan want to go in a different direction but management overruled him and forced him to re-up Q? If you (and others here) could clearly see the motives behind Stan's dealings then how could the people closest to the team not see it and put a stop to it? As I've stated several times on this board, I think Stan dropped the ball on multiple occasions, especially signing the players he did this summer while missing out on several talented players that were available. I admit that he left me scratching my head as to what he was up to when he signed Ward, Manning and Kunitz while players like Pacioretty, Skinner, Galchenyuk, O'Reilly, Sheary, Lindholm, Ferland, Hoffman, Hamilton & Hanifin were all changing teams. I just can't bring myself to believe that it was all in an effort to screw Joel Quenneville. Kudos to you if you have it right and shame on me for being so trusting of hockey execs. Cheers
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    Jeremy Colliton

    I wasn't suggesting that anyone's comments will affect the coach, I was simply hoping people on both sides of the debate would hold off judgement on the new guy until there is a decent enough sample size. You know how people here can be quick to judgement either way.
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    Q just fired..

    Very well said. Assuming he's not done yet, I was thinking the same thing about the Seattle job but then started to wonder ... would he really want to start from scratch with an expansion team or would he be looking for a team that is more established and closer to the prize? I have no idea either way, it just occurred to me.
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    Stan As Gm

    Please don't take this the wrong way but I have to ask: Do you really think that Stan put a crappy team together so he could fire the coach? Why on earth would he take that risk and how do you now undo the damage? Very curious to hear your thoughts as there are others here who seem to share your view. I have to believe that Stan if anything has now put himself firmly under the microscope big time with McD and Rocky and his every move may be scrutinized until there is some stability with this team. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's GM by committee from here on.
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    Jeremy Colliton

    A simple favor to ask all posters whether you like today's move or not: Let's give the poor guy a chance here and see what he can do. It's clear most of us agree that the roster is not where we feel it should be so let's neither crucify the guy if the first few games are rough nor crown him king if they shoot out of the gates. He is taking on a really tough task and he knows whose shoes he's being asked to fill. He is not Q, he never will be Q. He is his own man and he will bring his own coaching technique. I wish him and his new found team all the best! Rip out the the rear view mirror and look out the windshield - let's all move forward.
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    Q just fired..

    To me it's not who's right or wrong. Something had to change on this team to at least try something different. Many people here might think I'm a Q hater but that is not at all the case. I didn't advocate the firing of Q as laying blame but simply as a need for change. In a perfect world, Stan would be held accountable but I think we all know how this works in all sports. 99% of the time the coach is the fall guy. Firing Stan at this point does nothing to change what we see on the ice but a coaching change might. Will they win the cup? Probably not. Can they make the playoffs? Perhaps, time will tell. Stan has now made his bed and he is on the clock. The next death card already has his name on it. As a Hawk fan, first and foremost I want to see the team win more cups but the realist in me says that's very hard to do in a salary cap league with 31 (soon to be 32) teams. So, the next best thing is to ice a team that can compete game in and game out, get into the playoffs and see what can happen from there. The team I have been watching the last year and a half was in disarray more often than not. Players in the right zone but rarely in the right place. A team that could play like world beaters for 10 minutes here and 20 minutes there but rarely ever for a full 60. A team that was easy to play against and very predictable. No PP, suspect PK (lately) and just seemed a mess. Firing Stan only gives his haters satisfaction, not change. I'm with you that the talent is sub-par but there are probably 10 other teams in this league that can compete with equal or worse rosters. I'm really looking forward to seeing if this team can respond to the change and rise to the challenge. Colliton said in his presser that his approach to the game is to play with pace and play hard without the puck, I am looking forward to seeing that because it's been missing on this team for a while.
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    Q just fired..

    Understood. I did not mean to imply you were suggesting anything of the sort just that I hoped that our vets are big enough to roll with the punches.
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    Q just fired..

    Wow. How about we wait until the Hawks lose the opening draw of Colliton's first game before we start labeling him interim or temporary? 😃
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    You Be The Gm 2018/2019

    Come on Bob they spent $6.5M this off season on ... never mind!
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    Q just fired..

    I don't expect any of them to be thrilled with the prospect of change immediately because their comfort level has been disturbed. I do hope that they will come to embrace the change and give the new guy a chance to see what his plan looks like and to lead the younger guys into the new normal. I won't read too much into their early comments as we all know they are going to shower Q with praise for what he has done in his time here. There is nothing worse than a spoiled brat pouting in the corner because things aren't going his way. I don't think it's in the DNA of the likes of Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith and Crawford. I think they would all rather be talked about as the guys that led the turn around rather than the guys who quit on their new coach!
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    Q just fired..

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    Q just fired..

    Wow, I swore to myself that I would let this go but I'm too stubborn 😡 😃 It was a rhetorical question wondering if people in STL in 1996 were concerned about replacing a proven NHL coach (this is for you - not one as good as Q will be in 22 years but successful nonetheless) with someone who had never been a head coach at that level.
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    Q just fired..

    I'm not missing your point at all. Keenan was one of the most successful coaches around in 1996 and once again (for the last time), my reference was to a moment in time in 1996 when Q's NHL coaching record was non existent. As such, I'm sure there were some concerns AT THAT TIME IN 1996 in STL. I am not challenging the fact that Q is a more successful coach than Keenan. Please try and understand that.
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